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(11-23-2023 09:24 AM)anti-zip Wrote:  Interesting. I was thinking a second transfer was allowed if you were a grad student. He's in his 5th year. Maybe I'm not remembering the rules right? Or maybe the fact he transferred meant he was going to need a 5th year to graduate because some credits didn't transfer.
I believe transferring from the school you just graduated from gives you instant eligibility for that next school, but not every transfer thereafter regardless of how many season of eligibility you may have remaining. One advantage the grad transfers have is they can go into the portal at any time and not have to wait until the window opens. So I'm guessing he has not graduated yet, and got his free instant eligibility when he went to Butler, when he decided to go back to Akron he'd be eligible if he just graduated from Butler. These kids in the portal really have to think these things out because as I see his case his is an easy denial. Players always had to sit a season out when transferring but they decided to give one freebie, how they thought they could secure instant eligibility twice without a diploma is beyond me.

Quote:NCAA graduate transfer rules
You can participate in sports as a graduate. Here are some of the requirements to do that:

1) You must graduate from your current college/university.
2) Have at least one year of eligibility on your five-year clock.
3) You must be going to a graduate school that has your sport.
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(11-23-2023 09:24 AM)anti-zip Wrote:  Interesting. I was thinking a second transfer was allowed if you were a grad student. He's in his 5th year. Maybe I'm not remembering the rules right? Or maybe the fact he transferred meant he was going to need a 5th year to graduate because some credits didn't transfer.

He has not finished his undergrad degree, 2 classes short, so the second transfer was out. He was trying to claim hardship (mental stress) as his reason for transferring back to the zippys.
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(11-23-2023 11:53 AM)luckyflash Wrote:  
(11-23-2023 09:24 AM)anti-zip Wrote:  Interesting. I was thinking a second transfer was allowed if you were a grad student. He's in his 5th year. Maybe I'm not remembering the rules right? Or maybe the fact he transferred meant he was going to need a 5th year to graduate because some credits didn't transfer.

He has not finished his undergrad degree, 2 classes short, so the second transfer was out. He was trying to claim hardship (mental stress) as his reason for transferring back to the zippys.

If he was 2 classes short at the start of the semester, he should be able to graduate in December, become a grad student, and be immediately eligible. If he's 2 classes short at the end of the first semester, he won't be eligible until next season.
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(11-23-2023 02:43 PM)cleveland Wrote:  
(11-23-2023 11:53 AM)luckyflash Wrote:  
(11-23-2023 09:24 AM)anti-zip Wrote:  Interesting. I was thinking a second transfer was allowed if you were a grad student. He's in his 5th year. Maybe I'm not remembering the rules right? Or maybe the fact he transferred meant he was going to need a 5th year to graduate because some credits didn't transfer.

He has not finished his undergrad degree, 2 classes short, so the second transfer was out. He was trying to claim hardship (mental stress) as his reason for transferring back to the zippys.

If he was 2 classes short at the start of the semester, he should be able to graduate in December, become a grad student, and be immediately eligible. If he's 2 classes short at the end of the first semester, he won't be eligible until next season.


A little accuracy on the issue is needed. Ali Ali needs to enroll in two classes in the semester that starts in January 2024. He did not graduate from Butler in May 2023 and he will not graduate from Akron in December 2023.

His only hope at this point is to follow the legal path that Cincinnati used to get Aziz Bandaogo approved last week.
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(11-25-2023 11:38 AM)MACFAN Wrote:  
(11-23-2023 02:43 PM)cleveland Wrote:  
(11-23-2023 11:53 AM)luckyflash Wrote:  
(11-23-2023 09:24 AM)anti-zip Wrote:  Interesting. I was thinking a second transfer was allowed if you were a grad student. He's in his 5th year. Maybe I'm not remembering the rules right? Or maybe the fact he transferred meant he was going to need a 5th year to graduate because some credits didn't transfer.

He has not finished his undergrad degree, 2 classes short, so the second transfer was out. He was trying to claim hardship (mental stress) as his reason for transferring back to the zippys.

If he was 2 classes short at the start of the semester, he should be able to graduate in December, become a grad student, and be immediately eligible. If he's 2 classes short at the end of the first semester, he won't be eligible until next season.


A little accuracy on the issue is needed. Ali Ali needs to enroll in two classes in the semester that starts in January 2024. He did not graduate from Butler in May 2023 and he will not graduate from Akron in December 2023.

His only hope at this point is to follow the legal path that Cincinnati used to get Aziz Bandaogo approved last week.

Interesting. Now the question is how long does NCAA take to hear the appeal. If he's cleared by the start of MAC play, I'm guessing Akron gets him in uniform for the final 20 games or so. If the decision goes past early January, Ali has to make a call. Play now, or stay for next year.
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The grass IS greener for Sean Lewis. Just named HC at San Diego State.
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(11-28-2023 04:48 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  The grass IS greener for Sean Lewis. Just named HC at San Diego State.
Congrats to him, never doubted his decision to leave here even after falling in Deion’s doghouse. I can see his system lighting it up out there, he’ll be coming back this way again on his next step for even more money.
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SD St. could well be a P5 school when the 2PAC/MWC drama finally unfolds.
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It should be noted that CU averaged 32 ppg. with Lewis calling the shots. When he no longer was, they never even scored 32 points again and averaged only 20 ppg.
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(11-13-2023 01:10 PM)Albert Flasher Wrote:  Now this may have been a more reasonable path to pursue for the former Flash Fast head coach. Also saw that a five-star recruit decommitted from the prime-time show.

San Diego State coach Brady Hoke to retire at end of the season

#GoFlashes

Maybe I should play the lottery this week.

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(11-28-2023 06:45 PM)axeme Wrote:  It should be noted that CU averaged 32 ppg. with Lewis calling the shots. When he no longer was, they never even scored 32 points again and averaged only 20 ppg.

Yeah. Maybe Deion knew he was interviewing and made the move. I imagine Deion expects total loyalty at least in one direction.
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Go Aztecs!
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ESPN reporting Lewis has agreed to coach San Diego St.
Details being finalized
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(11-28-2023 07:40 PM)burden Wrote:  
(11-28-2023 06:45 PM)axeme Wrote:  It should be noted that CU averaged 32 ppg. with Lewis calling the shots. When he no longer was, they never even scored 32 points again and averaged only 20 ppg.

Yeah. Maybe Deion knew he was interviewing and made the move. I imagine Deion expects total loyalty at least in one direction.
That was the rumor that was floated, but I’m not buying it. At that point the schools have search committees come up with a list and trim it to a short list but no interviews are conducted. Headhunters reach out to his agent and nothing more. If Deion got mad about people reaching out to him that’s on him, every other head coach wants nothing but the best for their players and coaches. Think Bill Walsh or Andy Reid got mad their assistants were in demand?

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So if I have the always confusing NCAA transfer/eligibility right, SDST's QB is out of eligibility after this year, and Schlee has 1 year left which will be his 6th year in college. Meaning I would assume there's a good chance he has/will graduate and will be eligible to transfer a second time. Where can I get the odds on a reunion?
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I’ll find those odds for you.
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(11-28-2023 10:21 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  So if I have the always confusing NCAA transfer/eligibility right, SDST's QB is out of eligibility after this year, and Schlee has 1 year left which will be his 6th year in college. Meaning I would assume there's a good chance he has/will graduate and will be eligible to transfer a second time. Where can I get the odds on a reunion?
As we discussed regarding Ali Ali, I believe even as a grad student you must graduate from the school you are leaving to be instantly eligible. So if he graduated from Kent State he’ll have to sit out going from UCLA to SDSU.
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(11-29-2023 07:14 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(11-28-2023 10:21 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  So if I have the always confusing NCAA transfer/eligibility right, SDST's QB is out of eligibility after this year, and Schlee has 1 year left which will be his 6th year in college. Meaning I would assume there's a good chance he has/will graduate and will be eligible to transfer a second time. Where can I get the odds on a reunion?
As we discussed regarding Ali Ali, I believe even as a grad student you must graduate from the school you are leaving to be instantly eligible. So if he graduated from Kent State he’ll have to sit out going from UCLA to SDSU.

Right I was assuming he didn't graduate from Kent in the 4 years he was here and will graduate during his 5th year at UCLA. If that's wasn't the case, then it seems extremely short sighted of him to not back out of UCLA when Moore committed. If he didn't leave himself a potential out if he ends up blocked for his final two years by an elite recruit that would be like sliding short of the sticks on 4th down. Moore flipped to UCLA on Dec 19th so it would've been before the spring semester started.
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Lewis’ contract details revealed, congrats to him. Curious if he comes back for a couple coaches he left behind when he went to Colorado like Coach Matty?

Quote: Lewis has a 5-year contract with San Diego State, with a salary that starts at $1,753,100 in 2024 and increases each year. The salary ranks 4th in the Mountain West Conference according to USA Today.

His contract also included a long list of bonuses, like $25,000 for advancing to the conference championship and $75,000 for winning it, $75,000 for beating two top-25 teams (AP or USA Today), $50,000 for a top-15 final ranking and $10,000 if his team has a GPA higher than 2.80.

And if the Aztecs go bowling?

Non-CFP Bowl with payout less than $1,500,000 — $50,000
Non-CFP Bowl with payout greater than $1,500,000 — $75,000
Qualification for CFP First Round — $150,000
CFP Quarterfinal Participant — $200,000
CFP Semifinal Participant — $250,000
CFP Final Participant — $300,000
CFP National Championship — $400,000

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/s...20history.
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I wonder if he'll poach Matt Johnson.
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